Yes, calamares is explicitly installed:

pacman -Qi calamares
Name            : calamares
Version         : 3.3.0alpha2-28
Description     : Distribution-independent installer framework
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://calamares.io/
Licenses        : LGPL
Groups          : None
Provides        : None
Depends On      : qt5-svg  qt5-xmlpatterns  qt5-location  kconfig  ki18n  kcoreaddons  solid  kpackage  plasma-framework  yaml-cpp  parted  libatasmart  udisks2  polkit-qt5  kpmcore  kparts  kdbusaddons  libpwquality
                  qt5-virtualkeyboard  zfs
Optional Deps   : None
Required By     : None
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : None
Installed Size  : 9.42 MiB
Packager        : Anke Boersma <demm@kaosx.us>
Build Date      : Thu 13 Jul 2023 05:46:54 AM EDT
Install Date    : Sun 23 Jul 2023 09:16:02 AM EDT
Install Reason  : Explicitly installed
Install Script  : No
Validated By    : SHA-256 Sum
  • demm replied to this.

    mparillo
    New ISO is uploaded, installed locally, Calamares is correctly removed (no changes done in cala for this):

    The 2023.08.07 ISO includes a few more kf6 ported apps, like khelpcenter, skanpage & kdeconnect-kde.
    ISO will boot to the regular Welcome app, so selecting to install is no longer hidden.

      8 days later

      This works for me except for one issue, kmymoney. Kmymoney development has been stagnant for 2 years and it uses KF5. A KDE Developer says that KF5 apps will work with Plasma 6. I want to know how. The install fails because of conflicts between 5 and 6.

      • demm replied to this.

        chief No, at this stage, kf5 & kf6 are not co-installable. Do not expect any KDE Apps based on Qt5/kf5 to run on Plasma 6 until there is at least an upstream Plasma 6 Beta/RC release. KaOS has packaged a few tier 1 frameworks in such a way that they don't conflict (removed conflicting files), that is not an option right now for most others, removing conflicts will break the framework.

            demm Thanks demm, that's what I thought, and when I think I'm right, most of the time. 🙂)))) At least two KDE Developers are idiots for implying that I was wrong. I keep trying KaOS and it's getting closer and closer to becoming my daily driver. Kmymoney with a cloud of some sort are a must. gis-weather would be nice, but I can live without it. Not sure I like not being able to use the application menu to add icons to the desktop. DRagging and dropping them as Icons work, and I'm okay with that, have to manually sort and size them though (that works too once you get use to it. I'm 79 and hope KaOS can someday (soon 🙂)) ) be my daily driver.

            • demm replied to this.

                chief my daily driver.

                Plasma 6 is not ready for a full time daily driver, use the stable, regular ISO for that (and then Kmymoney or Skrooge just work).
                That is why these Plasma 6 ISOs are not listed on the Download page, should not be used by regular users.
                I run Plasma 6 on a laptop, that system is lightly used and one use is always test the very latest, but my regular workstation, no way, not using Plasma 6 on that.

                  8 days later

                  I now get an error message when I click on the Application Launcher:

                  file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kickoff/contents/ui/Kickoff.qml:161:25: Type FullRepresentation unavailable

file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kickoff/contents/ui/FullRepresentation.qml:64:13: Type Header unavailable

file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kickoff/contents/ui/Header.qml:18:1: module "org.kde.kirigamiaddons.components" is not installed

                  I am pretty sure this was not happening last week. Can anybody confirm? Is there a new package that I need to install manually?

                  Not a big deal, because I can start applications from krunner.

                    kilgoretrout

                    Thank you very much. After installing it, and re-booting, the Application Launcher works again for me.
                    Should I have installed a meta-package to avoid this?

                    • demm replied to this.

                        mparillo Should I have installed a meta-package to avoid this?

                        No, that obviously is a new depend (all of kf6, Plasma 6 & KDE Apps Qt6 based were rebuild 3 days ago), and will be added to plasma-desktop6.
                        Anytime you find a missing package, make sure to report. Especially QL files do not cause build failures on missing packages. This is one of the reasons to start early with Plasma 6, to make sure all gets build the way it should.
                        Though this is not an ISO issue, best report it in the Plasma 6 thread:
                        https://forum.kaosx.us/d/2999-start-of-plasma-frameworks-qt6-based

                        The commit that introduced the new depend (kind of an upstream error to not also add it to the top CMakeLists)
                        https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/commit/5b27243940cdcc5e3001b4fce3553e01c413ede0

                            demm I don't agree it's an error, I saw it mentioned elsewhere within Invent that they expect packagers to read cmake logs. It will appear as a RUNTIME dependency.

                            • demm replied to this.

                                kilgoretrout read cmake logs

                                That is exactly what I mean. Withing that commit, it is not added to any cmake, so nothing in the log. (I ended up reading the log quite a bit last Friday, since the KaOS used patches for plasma-desktop needed adjusting). QML won't add anything as missing in cmake logs, unlike c++).

                                    demm The commit right before that (https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/commit/4b2eaf2efab780fa7f1a5008f9682954495f7290) does that.
                                    In the logs (building 2cf107751d8737aa29a6dc485cd0459a6ae0366b, August 21st) I see this:

                                    The following RUNTIME packages have not been found:
* KF6KirigamiAddons2 (required version >= 0.10.0), Extra controls for Kirigami applications
  Required at runtime for the User KCM

                                    You are a main contributor to KaOS and I don't really contribute code to KDE, so I am probably missing something.

                                      With a bit of a delay (not the planned every 2 weeks), a new ISO is up again today. All kf6/Plasma 6 build from git checkouts August 18.
                                      Octopi is build from regular upstream code, porting to Qt6 is done there now too.
                                      Croeso is back to being an app used for new installs, no more password section, packages section is available, though many normally listed apps were removed, since they are not kf6 ported. Neochat was added to the ISO, but is not usable yet.

                                      I tested the new install, and got an error window titled Installation Failed, subtitle: Boost.Python error in job "userkf5". Details:

                                      <div><strong>&lt;class 'AttributeError'&gt;</strong></div><div>'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'</div><div><br/>Traceback:</div><div><pre>File &quot;/usr/lib/calamares/modules/userkf5/main.py&quot;, line 129, in run

                                      New ISO is up again, fixing the above error (known issue, for all other ISO's I manually adjust one Calamares file to adjust for a Plasma 6 ISO naming, corrected again on this new release).
                                      Moved to a new kernel, 6.4.12 is on the ISO.

                                      a month later

                                      Two weeks too late, but a new Plasma 6 ISO is up again today.
                                      Still uses Calamares Qt5 based as the installer.
                                      Moved to a new sound theme, ocean-sound-theme will replace oxygen-sounds in Plasma 6, so already added now.
                                      kf6, Plasma 6 and the KDE Apps are all build from a git checkout on Sept 17.
                                      ISO sets the wrong wallpaper, doesn't use the Midna theme, just uses the Breeze wallpaper, investigating what changed upstream. Workaround used sets the Midna wallpaper again.
                                      Logout/reboot/shutdown from the GUI does not work, results in a frozen system, use cli for now, like sudo reboot, already known for a few weeks, no solution found yet to fix. Fix found, check the SHA256SUM to get the correct, updated ISO.

                                      mparillo
                                      New ISO is up to deal with typing error, the ISO name had an L instead of l......
                                      A bit more work on the midna theme is also included in the Set 23 ISO.
                                      As always, see the first post for the actual link.

                                        8 days later

                                        This time quicker than every 2 weeks, but a new Plasma 6 ISO is up to publish some major changes.
                                        This is a first ISO with Qt 6.6 (6.6.0RC), all of kf6, Plasma & KDE Apps were build from their latest git checkout 2 days on this new Qt version.
                                        And this ISO includes Calamares QT6/kf6 based.
                                        Not all modules are ready at this point, for example, none of the QML modules load yet, but using all widgets modules results in successful installs, so this ISO is now kf5 free.
                                        Since it is not possible yet to run the bootloader choice module, only bootloader that will run on this ISO is systemd-boot, thus (legacy) BIOS installs will not get a bootloader.
                                        For those older systems, either only use Live mode, or add the install to an already existing bootloader on your system.